Jim of Survival Blog gives some heads up indicators of collapse. Somebody wanted to know when to head to his retreat.
Here are some important indicators to watch for, in my humble estimation. (Witnessing just one of these won’t be surely indicative, but if we see several of these…) :What I don’t understand is why they think heading to some retreat they own is going to do them any good with the onset of active Fascism?
A sharp spike in the Federal Funds Rate
News of a failed Treasury auction, or news that Treasury rates have spiked
Overt talk of a US default by Asian or European bankers
Multiple (8+) simultaneous US bank failures on one Friday
Any large Northern Rock style bank runs in the US (with customers lined up on the streets)
A stock market drop of more than 1,200 points in one day
A large and sudden spike in inflation
Any suspension of US stock trading
Draconian new stock trading limits (for example any new “circuit breaker” rules, followed by news that the trading was halted because of the limits)
New restrictions on either precious metals purchasing reporting requirements
New limits on moving funds outside the US
Any large derivatives trading collapses.(Because of disappearing counterparties or illiquidity.)
News that hundreds of hedge funds are suspending redemptions
News that many Money Market funds are dropping below $1.00 Net Asset Value (NAV)
US Dollar Index (USDI) dropping below 68 for more than one full week of trading.
Any sudden large interest rate moves by the FOMC. (Up or down.)
Rioting in several metropolitan centers simultaneously.
Gold spiking past $1,500 per ounce
News that any major western power is no longer accepting US Dollars in payment for key commodities
News that any major trading partners are no longer rolling over the majority of their US Treasury paper
A closed session of the full congress that lasts a full day or longer.
The Treasury starts to extensively monetize debt.
The resignation of either the Treasury Secretary or the Federal Reserve Chairman.
Mel Gibson moves to Fiji
I was in Chile under martial law. I was very young, but there were police on the streets with machine guns. Curfew was strict. Definitely no hordes, it was quiet. Nobody dared make a peep, they knew they’d be shot or disappeared.
If we have collapse, there will be immediate institution of martial law, all rights suspended and a strict curfew. Everything is in place already for a suspension of constitutional rights. The government, administrative branch will take over everything, from the corner store, the local church, to all industry.
Inner city denizens breaking curfew or looting will be shot on sight, actually, everybody will be. Law and order (or dead bodies) will reign…so running from those dark hordes running wild in survivalists fevered television inspired imaginations is sorta fruitless. What else are you running from other than dark rampaging hordes? Do you think American fascist authorities (military or mercenary contractors) are going to tolerate general lawlessness without general bloodshed? Think again.
Say you do make it out to the hinterlands to your retreat. Shortly after, registrations are announced…maybe they want to microchip everybody, whatever, they WILL track everyone. They’ll go by ownership rosters, utility databases and the ubiquitous credit bureau databases. You have utilities, you made a purchase that was delivered, you have a credit card or auto loan, you own your land. They know who and where you are.
You have no choice but to be registered or leave your comfy retreat. The borders are still open, but you hear it’s harder and harder to leave. You can’t imagine leaving your retreat, abandoning your plans, your hard-earned storage, or the beloved U.S. of A. for the unknown. After all Americans are the bestest, better than anywhere or anybody else. So you stay.
Once they’ve registered you and your family, they can do exactly what they want to you. You have three kids, a wife and care for your wife’s elderly mother. They decide on the basis of your past military record, you have to join up again. You have no choice or you will be arrested. You are hearing those arrested are disappearing, never to be heard from again.
All borders are tightly closed, and all airlines and air traffic nationalized. People can only get in or out of the country woth extreme government clearance. Unauthorized planes are shot down, as are people crossing the borders. They’ve gotten serious, as they have plenty of slave labor for the newly nationalized corporations now and have no need of illegals. You can’t get out now, not even walking out. Besides, Canada and Mexico have been annexed.
Your wife is to be sent to a slave labor camp. It’s either that or arrest to the concentration camps and their furnaces. Your kids are sent to the child state re-education camps. Your wife’s screams as they take the kids away ring in your ears.
You want to fight, your fingers are itching to get to your buried and hidden guns and ammo, but you know it’s certain death for you and your family (the rifle pointed at your heads give you a clue). The survival urge is strong. You don’t want to be one of those families you’ve heard about, killed and buried on their own land. Your wife’s mother is taken to a concentration camp with constantly running furnaces. Your wife’s and children’s lives hanging over your head on your performance keep you in line in your new unpaid military slave job. Your emergency stores and weapons are confiscated and last you hear, Mr. Fatcat ex-Lehman banker is living in your retreat.
Yep, you shoulda left the U.S. when you could.
Oh here’s an article on how to get utilities without giving your social security number, basically it’s simply to give them a deposit and refuse to give it…but check it out, once those utilities are on they know where you are. And they do know who’s you. If they have your date of birth and name, they’ve ID’d you–that’s all they need in lieu of SS#. Better to get utilities in a different name (can you get somebody else to get then in their name?) and for heaven’s sake don’t give them an accurate birthdate.
Originally posted 2009-06-16 09:10:00.
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